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April 26, 2010

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Thank you for this, Nick. This is the most lucid and informative commentary I have seen yet on this issue.

As a Catholic Christian who is fundamentally what Hayek called an "Old Whig" (a la Edmund Burke), I believe that the includes a combination of strict enforcement of immigration plus a reasonably generous guest worker program.

Having said that, one needs to come to terms with the reality that illegal immigration is just that illegal, and failure to enforce just laws leads to an increasing disregard for the Rule of Law. I would assert, based on some limited experience of Mexico, that the underlying problem, which Dean Knisely clearly identifies, is that our southern neighbor, in some significant degree similarly to Greece, is subject to the observation I saw posted elsewhere on another blog, that the elimination of corruption in Mexico would result in the destruction of the entire culture. I suspect that the situation in Mexico is, in fact, more dire than that in Greece, because of what has been termed the conquistador economy of Mexico.

Unfortunately, it would appear that Mexico has a long way to go before it will appear to be anything approaching what it would in a perfect world. A great deal of praying would seem to be in order.

Pax et bonum,
Keith Toepfer

Dean Knisely,
This is one of the better commentaries on the new law.
We often overlook the fact that the crimes committed by the undocumented are most often targeting the undocumented. I fear we will have to wait until Anglo children are kidnapped off our streets and tortured to extort money from their parents before we fully realize the heinous nature of the abuse currently suffered by the undocumented.
We have to acknowledge that our undocumented brothers and sisters are effectively indentured servants, working for slave wages, in horrible conditions. Patting ourselves on the back because ‘at least they’re not starving back home’ really isn’t an answer.
I applaud both your call for supporting fair trade enterprises across the border, as well as a decent guest worker program, and opening more paths to citizenship. I also believe we have to step up border enforcement or we are guilty of encouraging people to risk dying in the desert.

Thanks for this quite helpful discussion, Nick. I plan to preach on the theopolitics of immigration this weekend, and I will likely share some of your anecdotes to help those of us at a distance from this reality to appreciate the complexity of the problem. I really appreciate your stand.

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