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March 04, 2010

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who is your membership data provider? These are fascinating ideas... not sure I can deal with that much tech - and I'm only 59... sigh.

I want to talk to you about cloud computing for member database!

Craig and Catherine - We're using ACS online. They not only converted our data, the cost for the hosting is actually just a skoosh more than we were paying for the support contract.

Plus, if your financial people already know ACS, it's a simple migration.

We use their iPhone app to get access to the database on the go. And you can log in from any internet connected computer to get full access offsite. Great for volunteer treasurers.

I think this is great. As the quality and coverage of open source software continues to improve, it is getting cheaper and easier to experiment with new services online. Perhaps demonstration projects like yours will take the place of centrally funded projects from HQ.

You wanted ideas? I have always wanted to implement a standards based church calendar on the web with syncing capabilities so that people could download vestry, altar guild, lay reader schedules, etc. It would be cool to fetch the times of special services with a smartphone. (Oops. It's Ash Wednesday. When was that service again?)

Paul - we actually have been doing that with Google Apps (and the CalDAV they use) for a couple of years. It's been transformative in our ability to share information. And people do subscribe our public calendar feeds. Plus those of us with full access can easily add or modify events from home or even from our phones.

The schedules are also posted using Google Docs - so that all the readers/servers etc always can see the latest version of the schedule. Can't tell you how many times doing that has saved our bacon.

I haven't actually looked at the calendar problem for several years, and that was before Google Apps got started. That's great. I'll have to give this a look.

It would be great if every parish was as tech savvy as you are. (I don't suppose they teach this stuff in seminary!) I do worry about how we take great examples like this and filter the information down to the parishes that are still struggling with technology. There ought to be efforts within each diocese to circulate examples of best practices and make consultants available to help.

Nick, this is just amazing! I have been looking at ACS, and will need to check out the pricing and compare it to what we've been using. One of our Sunday School teachers is totally into Web 2.0 and is exploring the use of technology for the work that he's doing.

Any more specifics about your use of cloud - based database (is this ACS?)would be great. Thanks so much, I think you have struck a nerve - and a good one!

Peter+

I like your quote from Wayne Gretzky. I just find myself wondering about how fast that puck is moving. It seems to be moving at a different speed for each of us. That is going to be a problem for the Church as it responds to technological change.

I am in my 50’s. I am a technology enthusiast, but a late adopter when it comes to expensive gadgets. I just have other priorities right now. A complicating factor (in the case of the iPhone) is AT&T’s coverage, which does not include my new workplace. So, a lot has to change before I jump on this particular bandwagon.

There is a young couple at our church. We met the at a newcomer’s dinner. They both have iPhones. The last time we talked, they were very excited about the apps they were finding for their phones. They may be typical of their age group.

So the iPhone is a reality for our parish, even if it isn’t a reality for each of us personally. I know it is a reality on college campuses; those kids are crazy about the iPod touch in particular. And, according to John Gruber, having your own iPhone app may quickly become as important as having a web site.

(I have to confess; I have no idea what a church iPhone app would look like or what it would do. I hope you post some screen shots when you are done. This is going to be a learning experience for a lot of us.)

So how fast is that puck moving? I suspect it is moving faster than any of us realize, particularly if we care about attracting young people to the church. We probably have some time, time enough to try some things and iterate until we find out what works. This could get really interesting.

Here's a thought... there's a free service out there that will let you build your own app for the iPhone and iPad that makes it dead simple to get your website content onto the mobile device.

Where's your hyperlink, man? I've had quite a number of requests to make an app version of my breviary and had no idea how to do it without an Apple and an iPhone...

Hi Derek. I think the free app stuff (it's actually not "free" - you just don't have to pay for a developer) pretty much is limited to pulling RSS feeds off a site and showing them on the iPhone.

If that's something that would work with the Breviary you're working on, then we should talk. I'm sure I can find someone interested to help with that sort of project… Drop me an email.

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