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January 16, 2008

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Good point. Even though *some* of the things he says make my skin crawl, I think Pope Benedict is often misinterpreted or misunderstood. He usually has a lot of sub-context around his statements.

But the problem wasn't what Galileo said or thought. The problem was that the Church had the power to punish him for what he said and thought - and that it did. Nobody would care about this incident otherwise.

Papa Ratzi continually points fingers in the wrong direction, and at everybody else, because he needs to keep the fantasy of the Infallible Church alive.

The Church never, ever seems to learn.

Pope Benedict is one of the great thinkers of our times. He addreses with great insight, learning and sensitivity the ultimate issues of philosophy and theology. His "Introduction to Christianity" is one of the most profound books of the 20th century. I also higly recommend his book "Truth and Tolerance" (which is actually a collection of essays).

(What the world does not understand about Pope Benedict is that he is not only extraordinarily erudite but also is very holy (I truly believe he is a saint). In this regard he reminds one of St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine. I put this in parentheses because, judging from some of the comments, some readers of this blog might not understand what holiness is or deny its existence.)

Ah, I love the smell of Ad Hominems in the evening....

(Really, I do wonder why it is that whenever anybody criticizes the Church and/or its functionaries, their spiritual lives are immediately called into question?

This is, in fact, EXACTLY what I was talking about in my original comment. So thanks, Dan, for proving my point precisely.)

You're right in terms of the actual condemnation, but I think the inability of the Church at that period (and in our own) to recognize criticism is not a one-way enterprise is what makes this affair tragic. The Church at least in its Roman expression still wants to dictate not only the why but the how. Not only Galileo's thoughts on method, but heliocentrism were condemned.

On the other hand, Galileo's maverick insights into the relationship of the bible and science were ahead of his time: "The Bible shows the way to go to heaven, not the way the heavens go." I don't think only the scientific method led to modernity; I actually think the combativeness of the Church helped it along quite a lot, rather than recognizing that the Aristotelian method was not the only or perhaps even best way to communicate the Gospel.

I admire Benedict XVI, especially when he discusses liturgy, but with David Tracy, think his criticisms of modernity (to the exclusion of criticisms of the Church) are not helpful, nor completely fair or honest--modernity is complex not only a matter of problems in science but of religious warfare. For example, we forget that the much excorciated Descartes wrote while the 16th century religious wars were underway in his backyard. In that context, what he wrote about reason makes a lot of sense, even if it was inaccurate, disembodying, and such. The problem is Bendict's tendency to pontificate without peer-review and critique in public fora, as Caelius notes on his blog, and that not only isn't good for science, it isn't good for theology. When that is coupled with his tendency to Neo-Platonic ideals over the real, it can be dangerous if not moderated by the input of others.

And Dan, simply because someone disagrees with Pope Benedict XVI does not mean we do not recognize him as gifted or holy, but neither does it mean that we are stupid and evil for disagreeing with him.

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